Brake and clutch hoses in flexible stainless steel braid PVC coated & stainless fittings
We can make virtually any brake or clutch hose. Please note for ALL clutch & brake hose enquiries talk to Furore Products on 07905 879407, or you can order direct through the website www.furoreproducts.co.uk – address for hoses being sent to copy etc is:-
Furore Products, 118 Plumleys, Basildon, SS13 1NG
We are frequently asked exactly what information we need to be able to make up stainless steel flexible braided brake & clutch hoses to your individual requirements. Here is a brief introduction to what you need to do:-
We need to establish what fittings you have on the ends of your hoses, sometimes we can identify the fittings just from the make, model & year.
In the vast majority of cases for any production car built after the early 80’s these will be M10 x 1.0 threads and will be a male fitting on the outboard end of the hose, if that’s the case it doesn’t matter if it has a convex or concave end as our male swivels are made to fit both, your existing pipes will probably have fixed ends, we normally supply a swivel for the outboard end as it makes them much easier to fit. On a few (mainly Japanese) vehicles they use a banjo fitting to the caliper, on a very few (VAG only) they use a 12mm banjo, we have both in stock. If it’s earlier than 80’s then it will be 3/8 x 24 thread – again usually male at the outboard end, our universal swivels will do the job on a caliper or a wheel cylinder. Both banjo’s & male swivels can be supplied bent at anything up to 90 degrees see the bike section for bends & sweeps on banjo’s. If the pipes are for a kit car then just think about what the calipers & wheel cylinders are from and what age and the same procedure can be followed.
Does the male end secure to the frame or panelling of the vehicle with a nut? If so then you want a male bulkhead fitting, note the nuts for these are supplied separately, just order them along with your hoses. If not then it must be secured by the female fitting it attaches to, in which case either a swivel or fixed male fitting can be used, occasionally the inboard end may go direct to a T piece or similar fitting, if this is the case we just need to know how it is sealed, if it is a short male end sealed with a copper washer to the flange then we have a suitable short male to do the job, the copper washer will be supplied FOC if it seals on the end of the thread in the normal way then a swivel will do the job.
Is it secured to the frame or paneling of the vehicle? – if so it can be circlipped or held with a large nut, again we have both fittings in stock, inside the fitting the actual sealing end can be either concave (drilled out with a normal drill bit) or convex (raised “nipple” at the base of the hole where it seals), we can supply either. Finally it may not be secured to the frame at all but simply threads onto a fixed male fitting, again we need to know whether its seal is convex or concave, but we can supply a suitable fixed or swivel fitting as required.
With regard to banjo fittings we can supply single or double banjo bolts in stainless steel in any of the 3 common threads. 12mm are more of a problem and you may have to use your original bolts or obtain them from the main agent, but if you know the thread size let us know, we can supply some M12.
Finally, with regard to the car options there is a third thread which is not in common use but was used on older (pre ’80’s) Fiats, Lancias & their derivatives such as Lada, Yugo, FSO etc. This is again an M10 thread but is 1.25mm pitch (very common on motorcycles) again we have most fittings available.
The vast majority of motorcycle brake hoses use banjos fittings at both ends.
Where they differ from the car applications is that they are frequently bent or swept at the ends. So, what’s a bend and what’s a sweep? If you imagine placing the banjo union on a table or similar surface so the circle is placed flat against the surface with the stem below it so when looking at it it looks a bit like a lollipop on a stick. If you now bend the “stick” of the banjo towards or away from you this is what we are referring to if we say the union is bent, it doesn’t matter if the bend is toward or away from you as the union can be rotated within the end of the hose even after fitting. If, however the “bend” goes to one side or the other, ie to left or right, again the direction doesn’t matter, then this is what we are referring to if we say the banjo is swept. So a sweep is to the left or right and a bend is towards or away, in both cases the angle can be anything from 10 – 90 degrees. The banjos can also be bent & swept and now it does make a difference whether the bend is towards or away and the sweep is to the right or left as when rotated it will not be reversed when turned thro’ 180 degrees. So, to ensure we are all singing off the same hymn sheet with the banjo circle flat and at the top (lollipop) a 20/20 bend and sweep to the right would bend the stem of the banjo toward you and to the right hand side, a 20/60 left would be still bend 20 degrees toward you but sweeping 60 degrees to the left. The exact direction and angle is rarely critical, it is usually just to get clearance past other items in the vicinity.
In the vast majority of cases (Most Japanese, recent British & many Italian) bikes & scooters use the coarser M10 x 1.25mm thread for the banjo bolts, some Suzuki, older Yamaha and some Italian use the M10 x 1.0mm thread & older (pre ’80’s) British bikes use the 3/8 x 24 UNF – we have all 3 in stock in single & double banjo bolts.
On some clutch lines & very occasionally on brake lines, male & female fittings are used, these are similar to those described in the car section and are normally available from stock.
When measuring up lines it is best to give a measurement from tip to tip, or with banjos from centre to centre. If you are trying to measure up for a new line then it’s best to use something fairly rigid like curtain wire, electrical cable, washing line or washer tubing to follow the proposed route of the hose, don’t forget to allow for steering to full lock in each direction & also for full bump & droop on the suspension.
When fitting aftermarket calipers, Willwood, for instance, have an unusual thread, it is a 27 x 1/8 NPT tapered (an American thread) for these applications we can supply a male/male adapter in blue anodised aluminium which converts the female thread in the caliper to a male 3/8 x 24 UNF which unions are readily available for.
Some Wilwood master cylinders use a 7/16 female fitting for which we can supply a male/male adapter to accept a 7/16 female fitting.
Some modern car brake lines, Japanese ones in particular have special, model specific female ends with circlip location, we can supply many of these, Toyota & Mitsubishi for instance, for others alternative fittings may be suitable, so it’s always worth asking.
Stainless Braided hoses are suitable for all applications & uses, we have supplied complete hose sets for many Kit cars, Race cars etc. It is perfectly suitable for piping the whole braking system and is far more attractive, durable, hard wearing and long lasting than copper or steel pipes.
Many specialist fittings are available such as 8mm unions & cam oil feed lines on bike cylinder heads, we have supplied hoses for pit bikes quad bikes & anything from Classics to Grasstrackers – if you have an unusual requirement it’s always worth asking!
Please note for ALL clutch & brake hose enquiries talk to Furore Products on 07905 879407, or you can order direct through the website www.furoreproducts.co.uk – address for hoses being sent to copy etc is:-
Furore Products, 118 Plumleys, Basildon, SS13 1NG